> Yes, rhetoric is very important.  Isn't that what the discussion is
> about?  I am sick of men feeling put upon when asked to take some
> responsibility for male behavior (ie: "don't put me in jail because
> someone whistled at you...").  We are ALL responsible for the cultural
> and emotional environment in our community.  If you don't have a problem
> with their behavior and don't actively discourage it, then yes you ARE
> responsible for the later repecussions when some schmuck who never
> learned healthy sexual commication skills rapes his girlfriend out of
> frustration, when all he wants is a warm embrace.

I disagree, and I think you miss my point. I assume I may hold you
personally responsible for all the people in the community who will blame
me for all the rapes of the world because I wouldn't discourage anyone
(male or female) from whistling at another. It's easy to pop in, purge
yourself, and make a heroic speech isn't it? I feel that I am responsible
for actively discouraging behaviors I consider offensive, and I refuse to
believe whistling leads to frustrated rape. I am not denying the existance
of sexual harrassment, I just have different opinions on what it is. I was
bothered by the tone and content of the first post, so I responded. You
misquoted me by the way. All I'm saying is that assuming one thing ALWAYS
leads to another is a dangerous way to structure an environment. I find
it very hard to believe you take responsibility for most of the behavior
of females in our society. Do you? 

> Margaret is not responsible for this because she encourages open
> discourse on sex, not repression of urges or sex-used-as-power crap. 
> And because she's aware of gender dynamics in porn and watches out for
> the bullshit.  More porn should come from Margaret and less from the
> likes of Larry Flynt.

Go Margaret!

Jeffrey 
jsbraine@email.unc.edu

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