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From: "Margaret J. Campbell" (76710.1375@CompuServe.COM)
Date: Mon, January 13th, 1997 6:28:11 AM
Subject: Flynt, porn, & feminists
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You know, I really am rather perturbed that I only get riled up enough to 
post here when people start talking about porn.

But such is life.

As for "pink," as much as I hate to defend Terri Gross, "pink" is the 
standard term for pictures that show the inner labia.  It isn't being coy or 
cutesy, it just is the standard ref.

As for women and porn, the study that is trotted out is the one that showed 
college males "violent" pornography (an entirely undefined term) and that 
found the men were then more violent.  Things that are left out of the 
reference--someone did the exact same study, using your standard blow-em-up 
movie, and found exactly the same reaction.  IOW, it isn't the porn, it is 
the exciting violence.  Also, when the subjects were re-tested a short time 
later, the more violent urges had passed away.

Snuff films are trotted out as the ne plus ultra of the argument.  Problem 
is, no one has ever seen one, and no researcher or politico or 
investigator has ever found one.  They appear not to exist, to be an entirely 
false bugaboo.

The anti-sex feminists also say that gay male porn degrades women.  Either 
Andrea Dworkin or Catherine MacKinnon has said that all penetrative sex, no 
matter how consensual, is rape.  And when informed that Betty Friedan has 
signed a petition for the Feminists for Free Expression, said that Betty was 
not a feminist.

And if you don't know who Betty is....

As for rape statistics: a. they are not correlated with any increase in 
population, just presented as sheer numbers, which are meaningless; b. in 
some studies, the definition of rape has included such things as being 
whistled at by construction workers.

And, for those of you who still think that laws against porn are a good 
thing, note that such laws are usually used first and foremost against gay 
and lesbian bookstores.  One region of Canada adopted the MacDworkinites law 
pretty much verbatim and the law has, so far, been mostly used against Little 
Sister Bookstore, a lesbian bookstore.  Books such as Our Bodies, Ourselves 
have been seized.

And if you still think porn made those boys do all those wrong things, well, 
heck.  It isn't their fault.  Let's let all the rapists out of prison.  They 
were misled by nasty pictures.

A couple of interesting books on the subject: Nadine Strossen's Defending 
Pornography, and Jonathan Wallace and Mark Mangan's Sex, Laws, and Cyberspace.

As for Flynt:  I was a journalist in VA when the whole Falwell thing 
started.  I was in the courtroom for the first trial, in Lynchburg.  The 
movie is more interesting.   Flynt is a sleazebag of the first order. I 
don't much like the man or his magazine, but hey, I don't like American 
Spectator, either. I greatly enjoyed the movie, even if it did make a hero of 
a sleazebag.

But then, The English Patient makes a gay Nazi spy a het romantic hero.  I 
don't really rely on movies for good history....