Just thought I'd mention that all of the posts from the ch-scene 
maillist members are showing up on Usenet with 
"doug@listserv.oit.unc.edu" as the sender name. Not the reply-to email 
address, which I can understand, but the sender name, which is new.

That'll be $60, please. No checks.

Oh, and I'm sorry to see Diane leaving something just as it's getting 
started, but, as a friend just pointed out to me, the quick exit does 
seem to happen a lot when lots of anti-anti-porn arguments are mustered. 
FWIW, I don't think she's addressed many of the counterarguments posted 
here at all, despite her claim that "most of your questions can be 
answered by looking back over my arguments".

todd and yes the meatgrinder thing was incredibly tasteless and 
offensive like duh morman